Hosted by Andrew Hopper & Bobby Herrington
Breaking Barriers Podcast
We’re here to help pastors and churches grow so that they can go. Churches can grow without going, but they can’t go without growing. Do you ever feel like church growth and sending is an uphill battle? You’re not alone, many leaders face common barriers that hinder mission success. At Breaking Barriers, we understand these challenges because we’ve been there. Now, we are on a mission to guide churches and leaders like you with Biblical strategies to help your church grow to go. Join Pastors Andrew Hopper and Bobby Herrington from Mercy Hill Church in Greensboro, NC.
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Recent Episodes
Strategic Planning for Church Growth – 5 Key Principles
Discover the 5 key components of effective strategic planning for churches and nonprofits. Pastors Bobby, Andrew, and Randy share insights from their 3-day strategic planning retreat, covering accountability systems, SWOT analysis, 3-year vision planning, yearly goal setting, and 90-day rocks. Learn how to move from long-term vision to weekly execution using proven frameworks like EOS. Perfect for church leaders and nonprofit executives looking to create alignment, build trust, and execute their mission with clarity.
How to Execute on Big Days
Learn how to execute successful big days at your church with practical project management strategies. In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we dive deep into the execution side of church event planning—from clarifying vision and setting goals to using RACI charts, building accountability culture, and managing teams effectively. Whether you’re planning Christmas services, Easter celebrations, or other major church events, discover proven systems for keeping everyone aligned, avoiding common pitfalls, and creating momentum through strong execution.
Adoption & Foster Care | Community Ministry
What happens when a pastor and his wife adopt a child with Down syndrome—and it transforms their entire church? Andrew and Anna Hopper share their adoption journey with daughter Faith Ann, the challenges of special needs parenting, and how Mercy Hill Church built a foster care and adoption ministry that mobilized 200+ families. But here’s the key insight: they discuss how churches need to find the community ministry lane that resonates with their unique heart and calling—not just copy what others are doing. For Mercy Hill, it was adoption and foster care. For your church, it might be veterans, addiction recovery, or another form of caring for the vulnerable. This honest conversation offers biblical wisdom on orphan care, practical guidance for finding your church’s ministry sweet spot, and an inspiring vision for how authentic passion creates lasting kingdom impact. Discover why adoption is more than adding to your family—it’s a powerful testimony of the gospel to a watching world. Chosen Book: www.andrewphopper.com/chosen
Baptisms on Big Days
What if you could plan baptisms in a way that actually creates momentum in your church? In this episode, we talk about the “Big Days” strategy: identifying your church’s highest attendance weekends (Easter, Christmas, Back-to-School) and scheduling baptisms around those moments. You’ll see why putting baptisms on display during peak attendance builds a culture of obedience, inspires life change, and shows that your church growth isn’t just about filling seats but making real disciples.
5 Ways to Lead Your Church In Biblical Generosity | End of Year Giving
Struggling to talk about money and generosity with your church? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, we explore five essential principles that help pastors authentically lead their congregation in biblical giving. Learn why generosity is one of the most powerful discipleship tools available, how to shift from wanting something FROM people to FOR people, and practical ways to teach tithing and first fruits giving. Whether you’re preparing for end-of-year giving campaigns or building a year-round culture of generosity, this conversation covers the heart issues, theological foundations, and leadership practices that make discussing money feel natural and transformational.
From Community Ministry to the Gospel: Connecting Adoption & Foster Care to Church Mission
Many churches struggle with community ministry that feels disconnected from making disciples. In this episode, we break down how adoption and foster care ministry serves as a powerful evangelistic tool—not just a “feel good” initiative. From reaching biological parents to discipling children in Christian homes, Pastor Andrew and Pastor Landon share practical insights from helping 200+ families engage in foster care and adoption. Plus: why knowing your church’s unique gifts matters more than copying another church’s model. Perfect for pastors wanting mission-aligned community impact. Chosen Book: andrewphopper.com/chosen
Execution Over Theory: How to Actually Make Disciples in Your Church
Most churches have solid theology about discipleship but still struggle to make disciples. Why? Because good theology ALONE doesn’t lead to good discipleship, relentless execution on good theology does. In this episode, Pastor Bobby uses Acts 2 as a framework to break down the critical difference between discipleship theory and discipleship practice. Alignment matters more than you think. Learn how to avoid “cashing out” your momentum and why the “day by day” execution is where most churches fail. If your church has tried multiple discipleship models without seeing results, this conversation will challenge how you think about making disciples.
Debunking Church Growth Myths
The anti-church growth movement is filled with myths that hold churches back from their mission. Can a church grow large and still disciple deeply? Are numeric goals unspiritual? Does multi-site ministry prevent real shepherding? We’re debunking these common objections and showing why mission-focused church growth honors both the Great Commission and biblical discipleship. Join us for an honest conversation about what Scripture really teaches about growing and tending the flock.
End of Year Giving Plan: Vision Casting, Storytelling & Discipleship Tips for Pastors
Want to crush your end-of-year church giving campaign with proven strategies that grow both your church’s mission and your congregation’s hearts? In this episode, we walk pastors through a framework for year-end generosity initiatives, covering everything from pre-planning in September to execution through December. Learn why December giving naturally increases and how to strategically leverage this momentum. We discuss the critical “why” behind generosity campaigns—it’s about discipleship first, budget second. Get practical insights on packaging your vision, telling compelling stories, setting up remembrance stones of God’s faithfulness, and communicating effectively with different groups of people.
Corporate Discipleship VS Individual Pathways
Should your church focus on individual discipleship plans or corporate pathways? In this episode of Breaking Barriers, Pastor Bobby and Pastor Andrew tackle a listener’s question about why Mercy Hill Church chose a church-wide discipleship pathway over individualized plans. Discover the 5 reasons behind their Acts 2 “flywheel” approach (Gather, Group, Give, Go), why simplicity beats complexity in discipleship, and how to align your church’s front-stage and back-stage conversations. Perfect for pastors, church leaders, and ministry teams wrestling with discipleship strategy, church growth, and creating sustainable pathways for spiritual formation.
Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 2)
What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul? Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did “all the right things.” Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he’s still discovering just how much the role affected him. In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the “relational tightrope” pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.
Ben Tugwell | The Weight of Pastoral Ministry (Part 1)
What does pastoral ministry really cost? Not just your time—but your emotions, your body, and your soul? Former lead pastor Ben Tugwell planted and grew Integrity Church for over 15 years. He had coaches, healthy boundaries, took time off, and did “all the right things.” Yet six months after transitioning out of vocational ministry, he’s still discovering just how much the role affected him. In this honest conversation, Ben breaks down the “relational tightrope” pastors walk every Sunday—navigating people in crisis, unrepentant sin, disgruntled members, and hundreds of heartbreaking situations that pile up over years. He shares why even healthy pastors carry an unavoidable weight, and how emotional intelligence and self-awareness are critical for long-term ministry effectiveness.